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		<dc:creator>Vickram Crishna</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This item is about the travails of connected travel, ie, the real world difficulties of getting broadband on mobile phones. It is specific to Airtel in India, but to a large extent, similar problems are reported from other GSM users, and regrettably (because it leaves no other choice open) CDMA users as well. The difficulties [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=vvcrishna.wordpress.com&blog=1136028&post=4&subd=vvcrishna&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>This item is about the travails of connected travel, ie, the real world difficulties of getting broadband on mobile phones. It is specific to Airtel in India, but to a large extent, similar problems are reported from other GSM users, and regrettably (because it leaves no other choice open) CDMA users as well. The difficulties reported appear superficially to be technical, but it doesn&#8217;t need much of a hard look to see they are as much organisational.   </p>
<p>The emails below speak for themselves, but to save busy people the trouble of reading them, here&#8217;s a brief introduction.</p>
<p>The sender is a friend, an Airtel customer like myself, who has opted for the GPRS service so that he can browse freely while traveling. The service has always been unreliable, but for the last two months completely absent. He has complained frequently, he tells me, and has been assured that he had issues with his laptop (Toshiba) or with his smartphone (Nokia). Lately, he began to suspect that someone was being a little economical with the truth.</p>
<p>I had also toyed with the idea of accessing the Airtel GPRS service from my MacBook, when someone gave me an old Sony Ericsson smartphone, which had Bluetooth, which therefore makes for quite a  handy combination.</p>
<p><strong>In theory.</strong></p>
<p><span id="more-4"></span></p>
<p>The GPRS worked painlessly, but only on the phone, not the laptop. I rang the helpline, and was asked to download some drivers from a site, which turned out to be some clever programmer’s solution for Sony Ericsson phones.</p>
<p>Whatever works, I figured.</p>
<p>This didn’t.</p>
<p>I disconnected the GPRS, deciding that the Airtel technical service people were probably unaware about ways of dealing correctly with Apple Macs (I have kind of got used to that, with several different third party gadgets).</p>
<p>Then Ricky told me about his problems. Mainstream laptop, mainstream phone! I thought to myself, if it is happening to him, maybe the problem doesn’t relate to enduser devices at all, but rather to server settings.</p>
<p>Update <strong>(early October, 2007)</strong>:</p>
<p>A different tech came from Airtel, and (it took 2 hours) reset the Sony Ericsson phone. He downloaded modem settings from some site (clearly different from the one I had tried in May), and finally succeeded in getting the service up and running.</p>
<p><strong>Hurrah! </strong>To me, this means some possibility of being able to check and reply to my mail when I travel in India (as the tech guy told me, it works abroad as well, but given roaming costs, this is not an option I am ever likely to want to experience).</p>
<p>How good is it? I don’t have a network bandwidth analyser, but it is fast enough to allow me https access to GMail. I will publish soon some of the key learnings that we have had at the <a href="mailto:india-gii@cpsr.org" title="India’s oldest and most authoritative list on global information infrastructure">india-gii mailing list</a>, where comments on connectivity using mobile cellular phones as modems have been discussed several times, and more intensely following the first posting of this blog item.</p>
<p>Update <strong>(late September, 2007)</strong>:</p>
<p>The engineers came over to the house, determined to check the network quality and blame it for the problems. However, I wasn’t having any, because my need is for the data service when I travel, not when I am in Mumbai and in the house.</p>
<p>After two hours of wrestling with the phone modem, it finally occurred to the guy that I have not kept the service on since May. Unfortunately, by the time he realised this, he had managed to do something that kept the phone modem from dialing at all. When he activated GPRS, the laptop could not dial through the phone, although the phone by itself still accesses the Web.</p>
<p>So now the phone is more or less disabled from acting as a data channel device for me. The form factor of the P910 is really not very comfortable for checking mail or anything, as far as I am concerned, so I am very unlikely to use it, except perhaps in some emergency. As I told a friend, maybe one day the iPhone will work in this sector, and maybe I will have the $$$ to afford it.</p>
<p>Otherwise I will have to buy a Nokia. I am sure there is no technical reason that only Nokia phones work on this service, just because the data service equipment is supplied and maintained by Nokia. Oh my goodness, no, who could ever be so suspicious?</p>
<p>Here is Ricky’s latest chapter in his saga. He is still unable to get the full data service working, no Gmail, and no large (&gt;50kb) file transfers. What is disturbing is not what you read below, but in some of the things that remain unwritten: for instance, calls from the Airtel office that claim that the engineers are satisfied that the problem is solved. Ricky now takes written visit reports from the tech guys (who otherwise maintain that they are not expected to give customers any acknowldgement at all).<br />
Here’s the current situation, as of Sept 19, 2007.</p>
<p>Mr Puri’s office called Ricky two days ago to threaten him with some unspecified legal proceedings. Ricky called up head honcho Manoj Kohli’s office in Delhi and bawled them out (Mr Puri’s office refused to give him the numbers, but they are apparently listed on the company website).</p>
<p>Mr Talwar, who heads the Airtel operation in Mumbai, called him back immediately and promised action.</p>
<p>Yesterday, Mr Shetty, who apparently heads technical customer support here, came over to Bandra to see Ricky’s setup and resolve the issue. He called me too (I was not in Bandra), and assured me that he will get my laptop connected with GPRS using the Sony Ericsson phone.</p>
<p>Tomorrow. I just got a call from Mr Parikal of tech support, who confirmed his colleague will visit.</p>
<p>I hope so.</p>
<p>Enjoy reading on.</p>
<p>———- Forwarded message ———-<br />
Date: Sep 12, 2007 10:31 AM<br />
Subject: Fwd: Total disruption of GPRS data services provided by AIRTEL.<br />
To: binu.puri@airtel.in</p>
<p>Dear Mr. Puri,<br />
I refer to our telephonic conversation on 10.9.2007, whereby you assured me that the problems faced by me with the Data services would be resolved within 24 hours.<br />
Please note that the problems faced by me, have not been resolved.<br />
Regards<br />
M Ralhan</p>
<p>———- Forwarded message ———-<br />
Date: Sep 10, 2007 11:13 AM<br />
Subject: Fwd: Total disruption of GPRS data services provided by AIRTEL.<br />
To: binu.puri@airtel.in</p>
<p>To,<br />
Mr. Binu Puri, Manager legal, Mumbai, Bharti Airtel Ltd.<br />
Dear Mr. Puri,<br />
With reference to your telephone call regarding the problems faced by me with AIRTEL GPRS data services, as per your request, I am forwarding you email sent to the Appellate Officer, Airtel, Mumbai and Delhi, for your reference.<br />
Regards<br />
M Ralhan</p>
<p>———- Forwarded message ———-<br />
Date: Sep 10, 2007 10:08 AM<br />
Subject: Total disruption of GPRS data services provided by AIRTEL.<br />
To: appellate.mumbai@airtel.in, appellate.del@airtel.in<br />
Cc: ceo.direct@airtel.in, Nodalofficer.mumbai@airtel.in</p>
<p>From:</p>
<p>Munesh Ralhan</p>
<p>Regarding: Total disruption of GPRS data services provided by AIRTEL.</p>
<p>AIRTEL Mobile Numbers xxxxx 45607 &amp; xxxxx 74259</p>
<p>Dear Sirs,</p>
<p>I write to you further to my email dated 30.8.2007 addressed to you regarding the problems faced by me with Airtel GPRS data services. Attached please find following emails sent to and received by AIRTEL, which are self explanatory.</p>
<p>1. Email dated 1.9.2007 sent to CEO, Bharti Airtel Ltd., attached with:-</p>
<p>a) email dated 28.8.2007 sent to the Nodal Officer, Customer Care &amp; Sr. Relationship Manager of Bharti Airtel Ltd regarding visit of the engineer and test conducted on 25.8.2007 and observations made.</p>
<p>b) email dated 21.8.2007 sent to the Nodal Officer, Customer Care &amp; Sr. Relationship Manager of Bharti Airtel Ltd.</p>
<p>c) email dated 6.8.2007 sent to Sr. Relationship Manager, Bharti Airtel Ltd., with</p>
<p>d) email dated 1.8.2007 received from the Sr Engineer, Data Services, Technical Support, Bharti Airtel Ltd. regarding test conducted on 1.8.2007 and observations made.</p>
<p>Till date I have received no reply from the CEO, Bharti Airtel Ltd. or the Nodal Officer, Bharti Airtel Ltd.</p>
<p>2. Email dated 8.9.2007 received from the Sr. Relationship Manager of Bharti Airtel Ltd regarding visit of the engineers to conduct test again.</p>
<p>3. Email dated 8.9.2007 received from the Engineer, Data Services, Technical Support, Bharti Airtel Ltd. regarding test conducted on 8.9.2007 and observations made.</p>
<p>Prior to the visit/report of the Sr Engineer, Data Services, Technical Support on 1.8.2007, I was continuously misinformed for more than a month that the Data services are working fine and the issues are with my Toshiba Laptop. HCL/Toshiba after doing complete tests and reformatting my laptop concluded that there is no problem with my laptop and the internet problems faced by me was due to Airtel.</p>
<p>Thereafter on my insisting, the Sr Engineer, Data Services, Technical Support, was sent to conduct a test on their laptop to prove to me if the Data services are working and his report/email dated 1.8.2007, clarified that the problems are with Airtel Network. Tests were again conducted by Airtel engineers on 25.8.2007 &amp; 8.9.2007, proving that there is total disruption of GPRS data services due to some major Network issues of Airtel. The problems faced by me for the Data services are in Bombay, Pune &amp; Delhi. I have been informed by many friends who are using Airtel data services that they are also facing similar issues/problems.</p>
<p>I expect immediate action and restoration of full data services on my mobile numbers, for use with the laptop, by Bharti Airtel Ltd., without prejudice to my right to further claims on account of disrupted data services for several months.</p>
<p>Kind regards</p>
<p>Munesh Ralhan</p>
<p>Attached: emails as above</p>
<p>Subject: Total disruption of GPRS data services provided by AIRTEL.</p>
<p>To: appellate.mumbai@airtel.in, appellate.del@airtel.in</p>
<p>Cc: ceo.direct@airtel.in, Nodalofficer.mumbai@airtel.in</p>
<p>Dear Vickram,<br />
With reference to the discussion we had regarding the AIRTEL GPRS data services and your similar experience of the problems, I am forwarding you email sent to the Appellate Officer, Airtel, Mumbai and Delhi for your reference.<br />
Regards<br />
M Ralhan</p>
<p>(The following paragraphs are the detailed emails sent to and from Airtel and Mr Ralhan before he reached the stage of communicating with the legal office)</p>
<p>ATTACHMENT – 1.</p>
<p>Email dated 1.9.2007 sent to CEO, Bharti Airtel Ltd. after exhausting all efforts to solve the GPRS data service issues.</p>
<p>Date: Sep 1, 2007 2:31 PM<br />
Subject: Fwd: xxxxx74259 &amp; xxxxx45607<br />
To: ceo.direct@airtel.in<br />
Cc: Nodalofficer.mumbai@airtel.in, kamal.sharma@airtel.in</p>
<p>Dear Sir,</p>
<p>I write to you after exhausting all efforts in rectifying the problems faced by me on my above mentioned numbers. Attached please find emails which are self explanatory.</p>
<p>I would appreciate if you would kindly look into the issues and revert if and when the problems faced by me would be resolved.</p>
<p>Kind Regards</p>
<p>M Ralhan<br />
———- Forwarded message ———-<br />
Date: Aug 28, 2007 10:48 PM<br />
Subject: xxxxx74259 &amp; xxxxx45607<br />
To: kamal.sharma@airtel.in</p>
<p>Cc: Nodalofficer.mumbai@airtel.in, 121@airtelindia.com</p>
<p>Dear Mr. Sharma,</p>
<p>I refer to the visit of your network engineer Mr. Santosh Sawant on 25.8.2007 at my Bandra residence, arranged by you to again test and report the problems being faced by me. The test conducted by the engineer again reiterated the problems faced by me which was reported by your engineer Mr. Vikrant by his email on 1, 8.2007. With reference to your telephone call today that the network issues have been rectified, upon connecting to the Internet, I find the problems still persists.</p>
<p>It is quite obvious that Airtel is not capable in solving the problems faced by me. There seems to be major issues with the Airtel Network which needs to be rectified. I would appreciate if you stop conning your customers. Many of my friends who are also using Airtel data services are facing similar problems.</p>
<p>I again request you to revert with the telephone number and email address of your CEO. This issue must end.</p>
<p>M Ralhan</p>
<p>———- Forwarded message ———-<br />
Date: Aug 21, 2007 11:27 AM<br />
Subject: Fwd: GPRS &amp; MY AIRTEL issue of Mr Rahlan<br />
To: kamal.sharma@airtel.in<br />
Cc: vikrant.j@airtel.blackberry.com , Nodalofficer.mumbai@airtel.in, 121@airtelindia.com</p>
<p>Dear Sirs,</p>
<p>Regarding: Mobile Nos. xxxxx 74259 &amp; xxxxx 45607</p>
<p>There is a limit to a customer’s patience with regard to service provided by Airtel and the repeated false assurances rendered by Airtel that the problems are being rectified.</p>
<p>I again request you to kindly provide the services as contracted within the next 24 hrs or I shall be forced to take the services of another service provider at the cost of Airtel, which please note.</p>
<p>Please also give me the email address of the CEO, Customer care head and Technical head of Airtel.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Munesh Ralhan</p>
<p>———- Forwarded message ———-<br />
Date: Aug 6, 2007 12:27 PM<br />
Subject: Re: GPRS &amp; MY AIRTEL issue of Mr Rahlan<br />
To: Vikrant<br />
Cc: kamal.sharma@airtel.in</p>
<p>Dear Mr. Sharma,</p>
<p>I would appreciate if you would be truthful as to &#8211; if and when Airtel can rectify the problems faced by me. I have been complaining to you since months of the intermittent working of your data services.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Ralhan</p>
<p>On 8/1/07, Vikrant  wrote:</p>
<p>Hi,<br />
As per your request I visited Mr Rahlans residence at Bandra-West.Tested the GPRS connectivity on my Laptop for about 3 to 4 hours. Following are the observations of the test :-<br />
- The connectivity was working but slow compared to normal connection speed.<br />
- The GSM network was also found to be fluctuating frequently,in between 30 to 80 %.<br />
- The most major issue is the upload speed. Outgoing emails are a problem because of this. Have tried sending outgoing mails from various sites like gmail, yahoo etc but wasn’t able to get through. Even a email with a size of 400 kb doesn’t go through.So the issue needs to be addressed to the network department for rectification.<br />
-The issue was observed on both of their numbers one Mumbai number and other Delhi number.<br />
- Also when he contacted the customer, he was forwarded to the technical help cust care, &amp; the information he received was that his service for using internet on laptop is not activated.<br />
- Also he is having a problem in registering for the MY AIRTEL service for managing his Airtel Mumbai number account. while registering he gets a message as his number cannot be register for the services. And Mr Rahlan wants to avail this service as soon as possible &amp; needs a resolution of the issue.<br />
–<br />
Vikrant<br />
Sr Engineer<br />
Data Services<br />
Technical Support<br />
Bharti Airtel Ltd<br />
Mumbai</p>
<p>ATTACHMENT – 2.</p>
<p>Email dated 8.9.2007 received from Sr. Relationship Manager, Bharti Airtel Ltd. Informing visit of Airtel engineers.<br />
From: Kamal.Sharma@airtel.in<br />
Date: Sep 8, 2007 10:09 AM<br />
Subject: GPRS related<br />
Dear Sir,<br />
This is with regards to the GPRS problem which you are facing at your<br />
residence.<br />
The engineer Santosh ( Network) and Siddharth ( GPRS engineer) shall be<br />
visiting your residence today morning for the same.<br />
Thank you very much for the cooperation.<br />
Regards,<br />
Kamal Sharma.<br />
Sr. Relationship Manager.<br />
Bharti Airtel Ltd.<br />
M: +91 98920 49653<br />
E: kamal.sharma@airtel.in</p>
<p>ATTACHMENT – 3.</p>
<p>Email dated 8.9.2007 received from Airtel engineers regarding the GPRS TEST conducted and observations made.</p>
<p>From: Siddharth mujumdar<br />
Date: Sep 8, 2007 12:16 PM<br />
Subject: xxxxx45607/xxxxx74259<br />
To: kamal.sharma@airtel.in<br />
hi kamal</p>
<p>As per your instruction that the problem faced by Mr.Ralhan on the numbers xxxxx45607 and xxxxx74259 have been resolved, I have visited Mr.Ralhan house at bandra-west along with Santosh Sawant (technical network team) for GPRS connectivity and to test the issue on the numbers of Mr.Ralhan for data services , the following test was conducted on Mr.Ralhan’s machine with both the above mentioned numbers and also same tested on our machine with my number xxxxx45595 . the following observations are of the test conducted</p>
<p>1) the connectivity was working but it was very slow as per normal speed</p>
<p>2) the issue with outgoing mail , we tried sending mail from various sites with normal 50kb attachment from Mr. Ralhan.s and also our laptop it was unable to send.</p>
<p>3) due to network issue the network is fluctuating and due to speed the even downloading and normal browsing speed is a problem.</p>
<p>4) even while normal browsing it continuously gets disconnected</p>
<p>the above was tested on the data card , motorola A780 , nokia 9300 , nokia 3230 with bluetooth and data cable. The problems are observed in all.</p>
<p>as above mentioned issue is due to server problems and we are unable to resolve this.</p>
<p>regards</p>
<p>siddharth</p>
<p>data services</p>
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